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Hi. Has anyone noticed the contradictory claims and citations regarding Volkswagen ownership? In the article summary, the company is quoted with a 12.7% ownership and a corresponding 20% voting rights, yet User:BilCat wants to convert that specific fact to a generalized assertion that the government of Lower Saxony has a 20% share ownership. Throughout the article, the distinction is made between actual share ownership by the Government of Lower Saxony, and its correspondence in voting rights. However, User:BilCat, seems unable to make that distinction and overrides my edit requesting a citation regarding the share ownership change that he is proposing without a citation, through his inability to distinguish share ownership and voting rights. I don't want to get into an edit fight, but the failure to make that distinction is clearly wrong. If the government of Lower Saxony has changed its share ownership to 20% (from the 11 or 12% as cited in 2 instances of the article), along with retaining a 20% voting rights, than User:BilCat's assertion would be true, but it would still need a citation to support that change and that conclusion. And at this point that change is not cited in the article anywhere. Please help before this becomes an edit war... Stevenmitchell (talk) 19:39, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you adding citation needed tags if you've already read the sources and know what the correct information is, instead of just correcting the incorrect information? BilCat (talk) 20:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Since it's contradictory and unsourced, I simply removed it. I don't know why you couldn't have done that yourself, with a suitable edit summary, but whatever. Is it fixed now, or is there some other issue remaining which you haven't mentioned yet? BilCat (talk) 20:39, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bugatti has been added back as a brand of Volkswagen Group. However, news reports state that RIMAC bought Bugatti from Volkswagen in 2021. Porsche now owns a minority stake, also. The Volkswagen Group's website no longer includes Bugatti on their list of brands here. Re-adding Bugatti to the website should be discussed on the talk page first based on references like these. Bahooka (talk) 01:07, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Volkswagen Industrial Motor and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 5#Volkswagen Industrial Motor until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. ilmaisin (talk) 02:00, 5 December 2022 (UTC)